Corporate Entrepreneurship: Innovating from Within

Entrepreneurship isn't confined to startups launched in garages or ventures funded by venture capital. Some of the most impactful innovations occur within established organisations. They’re driven by employees who think and act like entrepreneurs while working within corporate structures. This phenomenon is variously referred to as intrapreneurship, corporate entrepreneurship, or corporate venturing. It represents a powerful yet often misunderstood path.

Corporate entrepreneurs create new products, services, business models, or processes within existing companies. They are leveraging corporate resources while navigating corporate constraints. Understanding this entrepreneurial path helps you evaluate whether you can pursue your entrepreneurial ambitions without leaving the security of organisational employment.

What Is Corporate Entrepreneurship?

Corporate entrepreneurship occurs when employees within established organisations behave entrepreneurially. They identify opportunities, take initiative, accept risk and drive innovation that creates new value for the company. This can take several forms:

New venture creation: Building entirely new business units or spin-off companies within the corporate umbrella, often targeting new markets or customer segments with distinct offerings.

Product innovation: Developing new products or services that extend the company's current offerings or open new revenue streams, often through dedicated innovation teams or labs.

Process innovation: Creating new ways of working that dramatically improve efficiency, reduce costs, or enhance quality across the organisation's operations.

Business model innovation: Reimagining how the company creates, delivers, or captures value. Shifting from product sales to subscription services or from B2C to B2B markets.

Corporate entrepreneurs champion these initiatives. They navigate organisational politics, secure resources, build teams, and persist through obstacles to bring ideas to fruition.

The Advantages of Corporate Entrepreneurship

Access to substantial resources. Unlike startup founders bootstrapping with limited capital, corporate entrepreneurs can access significant budgets, established infrastructure, existing technology, and human resources. This eliminates many constraints that limit external entrepreneurs.

Reduced personal financial risk. You maintain your salary and benefits while pursuing entrepreneurial projects. If your initiative fails, you typically still have your job. The financial downside is limited compared to founders who invest personal savings or take on debt.

Established brand and customer base. Corporate entrepreneurs leverage existing brand equity, customer relationships, and distribution channels. Launching a new product under a recognised brand is far easier than building brand awareness from scratch.

Talent and expertise. Large organisations employ specialists across functions such as engineering, design, marketing, legal, and finance. Corporate entrepreneurs can recruit from this internal talent pool or access their expertise without hiring.

Market knowledge and data. Established companies possess valuable market intelligence, customer data, competitive insights, and industry expertise that inform innovation efforts. This knowledge base would take external startups years to develop.

Credibility and legitimacy. Corporate backing provides instant credibility with customers, partners, and other stakeholders. A new initiative from an established company faces less scepticism than an unknown startup making similar claims.

Infrastructure and operations. Manufacturing capabilities, supply chains, customer service systems, IT infrastructure, and operational processes already exist. Corporate entrepreneurs build on this foundation rather than creating everything from scratch.

Learning opportunities. Corporate environments offer unparalleled learning. Exposure to how large organisations operate, access to experienced leaders, and understanding of different functional areas. This education is invaluable even if you eventually pursue external entrepreneurship.

The Challenges and Constraints

Despite these advantages, corporate entrepreneurship faces unique obstacles:

Bureaucracy and slow decision-making. Corporate processes designed for stability and risk management slow innovation. Multiple approval layers, lengthy review cycles, and consensus requirements frustrate entrepreneurs accustomed to moving quickly.

Risk aversion and fear of failure. Corporate cultures often punish failure more than they reward success. Managers protecting their careers avoid risky projects, even promising ones. This risk aversion stifles the experimentation essential to innovation.

Resource competition. While corporations have resources, accessing them requires internal competition. Existing business units jealously guard budgets and talent. Securing support for unproven initiatives means competing against established priorities with powerful advocates.

Short-term pressure. Public companies face quarterly earnings pressure that prioritises immediate results over long-term innovation. Projects requiring patient capital struggle to survive when leadership demands quick returns.

Organisational antibodies. Established organisations naturally resist change. Middle managers whose power or relevance might be threatened by innovation and sabotage new initiatives. Navigating these political dynamics requires skills most entrepreneurs haven't developed.

Incentive misalignment. Corporate compensation rarely rewards entrepreneurial success proportionally. If your innovation generates millions in new revenue, you might receive a modest bonus, while external entrepreneurs would capture significant equity value.

Limited autonomy. Corporate entrepreneurs must operate within constraints: brand guidelines, legal requirements, policy compliance, and strategic alignment. The freedom to pivot radically or make independent decisions is more limited than in external entrepreneurship.

Cultural mismatch. Many corporate cultures value conformity, adherence to processes, and predictability. This is the opposite of entrepreneurial cultures that embrace experimentation, accept failure and move quickly. Operating entrepreneurially within non-entrepreneurial cultures creates constant tension.

Characteristics of Successful Corporate Entrepreneurs

Certain traits and skills help individuals succeed as corporate entrepreneurs:

Political savvy. Understanding organisational dynamics, building coalitions, managing upward, and navigating corporate politics are essential. Pure technical or business skills aren't sufficient. You must operate effectively within the political reality.

Strategic alignment skills. Framing your initiative as advancing corporate strategy, solving leadership priorities, or addressing competitive threats increases support. Understanding what senior leadership cares about and connecting your work to those priorities is crucial.

Relationship building. Success requires building networks across the organisation—champions in leadership, allies in key functions, and advocates among peers. Strong relationships provide support, resources, and protection when challenges arise.

Adaptability. Corporate entrepreneurs must adapt their approach to organisational realities while maintaining initiative and integrity. This requires knowing when to compromise and when to stand firm—a delicate balance requiring judgment.

Entrepreneurial mindset with corporate literacy. You need to think like an entrepreneur—opportunity-focused, action-oriented, comfortable with uncertainty. While understanding corporate systems, speaking the corporate language, and working within structures.

Strategies for Corporate Entrepreneurship Success

Secure executive sponsorship early. Identify senior leaders who believe in your initiative and will protect it when threatened. Executive sponsors provide air cover, resources, and legitimacy that middle managers alone can't offer.

Start small and prove value quickly. Launch pilot projects or minimum viable products that demonstrate potential without requiring massive upfront investment. Early wins build momentum and justify continued support.

Build cross-functional teams. Recruit talented people from across the organisation who bring diverse skills and perspectives. Cross-functional teams also create stakeholders in multiple departments who support your initiative.

Communicate relentlessly. Keep stakeholders informed about progress, wins, and learnings. Regular communication prevents misunderstandings, maintains visibility, and builds support. Use corporate communication channels effectively.

Frame initiatives strategically. Connect your work to corporate strategy, customer needs, competitive threats, or market opportunities that leadership prioritises. Strategic framing positions your initiative as essential rather than optional.

Manage risk perception carefully. Help stakeholders understand risks while demonstrating how you're managing them. Don't hide risks—that destroys trust—but show you're taking intelligent approaches to mitigation.

Leverage external partnerships when needed. If corporate bureaucracy prevents moving quickly, partner with external startups, vendors, or consultants who can move faster. These partnerships can accelerate progress while maintaining corporate involvement.

Know when to leave. Sometimes corporate constraints make meaningful innovation impossible. If you've tried repeatedly and the organisation won't support genuine entrepreneurship, pursuing opportunities elsewhere might be necessary.

Who Should Consider Corporate Entrepreneurship?

Corporate entrepreneurship suits certain profiles particularly well:

You have entrepreneurial drive but value stability. If you want to innovate and build without the financial risk of external entrepreneurship, corporate entrepreneurship offers a middle ground.

You work in an organisation supportive of innovation. Some companies genuinely encourage intrapreneurship through culture, resources, and reward systems. If you're in such an environment, leverage it.

You're politically savvy and patient. If you can navigate organisational dynamics and persist through bureaucratic obstacles without burning out, you can succeed where others fail.

You value learning and development. Corporate environments offer exposure to how large organisations work—knowledge that serves you whether you stay or eventually pursue external ventures.

You see opportunities aligned with corporate capabilities. If you identify innovations that leverage your company's unique strengths, resources, or market position, internal development might be more viable than external startups.

Conversely, if you need complete autonomy, can't tolerate bureaucracy, want direct financial upside from your innovations, or work in organisations hostile to innovation, external entrepreneurship is better suited to you.

The Bottom Line

Corporate entrepreneurship represents a legitimate and valuable path for entrepreneurially-minded individuals who recognise that innovation isn't confined to startups. Many significant innovations - from Post-It Notes at 3M to Gmail at Google - emerged from corporate entrepreneurship.

Success requires combining entrepreneurial thinking with corporate navigation skills, leveraging organisational resources while managing constraints, and persisting through obstacles that would stop external entrepreneurs. It's not easier than external entrepreneurship—just different, with distinct trade-offs.

If you're working within an organisation and see opportunities to create new value, corporate entrepreneurship lets you pursue those opportunities while maintaining employment security. Not every organisation supports this effectively, but in those that do, corporate entrepreneurs drive innovation that shapes industries and creates substantial value.

The choice between corporate and external entrepreneurship isn't binary—many successful external entrepreneurs developed skills and ideas through corporate intrapreneurship first. Understanding both paths helps you choose the approach that fits your current circumstances, capabilities, and aspirations.

WeChat: Building the World's First Super App

In a world dominated by single-purpose applications: one for messaging, another for payments, a third for social networking, one app defied convention to become something unprecedented. WeChat became the world's largest standalone mobile app in 2018, with over 1 billion monthly active users.

But its significance extends far beyond user numbers. WeChat pioneered the concept of the super app. It fundamentally transformed how hundreds of millions of people communicate, shop, pay, work, and navigate daily life.

Understanding WeChat's journey from messaging app to digital ecosystem offers profound lessons for entrepreneurs navigating the app-based economy.

The Origin Story: 70 Days to Revolution

WeChat began as a project at Tencent Guangzhou Research and Project Centre in October 2010, created by Allen Zhang and launched in 2011. The initial vision was straightforward: create a mobile-first messaging solution to compete with rising platforms like WhatsApp. Tencent had already achieved enormous success with QQ, its desktop instant messaging service, but recognised that the future belonged to smartphones.

The story of how Zhang and his tiny team of developers created the first version of the app in just 70 days has become the stuff of legend. This remarkable speed reflected both technical capability and strategic urgency. Tencent deliberately created internal competition between QQ and WeChat, fostering an innovative pressure cooker. It encouraged the teams to push boundaries, adapt quickly to user demands, and explore new avenues for growth.

User adoption began slowly. Early users questioned why certain features were missing. But after the release of the walkie-talkie-like voice messaging feature in May 2011, growth surged. This innovation—allowing users to record and send voice messages with a single button press—proved transformative in the Chinese market, where typing on mobile keyboards was cumbersome.

It demonstrated a principle that would define WeChat's success—understanding and solving real user problems rather than copying Western competitors.

The Philosophy: Users as Friends

What truly distinguishes WeChat isn't its feature set but the philosophy driving its development. Allen Zhang's product philosophy centres on thinking about users as his friends. It was to design products with sincere best intentions for users. It put their interests above all others—even company stakeholders.

This wasn't mere rhetoric. Zhang translated this philosophy into concrete decisions that seem counterintuitive for a company seeking to maximise revenue. Unlike many other Chinese apps, WeChat has neither a VIP subscription that provides an enhanced user experience nor a full-screen ad upon launch. Despite the potential for significant advertising revenue from an app with over 1 billion daily active users, WeChat limits ads in its social feed to just 2 per day.

Zhang's reasoning was unambiguous. If WeChat were a person, it would be your best friend based on the time you spend with it, so how could it put an advertisement on your best friend's face? This user-first philosophy extended to data practices, with Zhang publicly stating that WeChat would never read users' chat history, even when users requested features that would require it.

From Messaging to Payments: The Strategic Pivot

The transformation from messaging app to super app began with key strategic expansions. WeChat expanded features to include social networking with "Moments" in 2012, mobile payments with "WeChat Pay" in 2013, and various in-app services such as ride-hailing, food delivery, and gaming.

The introduction of WeChat Pay represented a pivotal moment. But simply adding a payment feature wouldn't have been enough to change behaviour. WeChat took it further by integrating the cultural tradition of Red Pockets into its platform. During Chinese New Year, people traditionally give money in red envelopes as gifts. WeChat digitised this tradition, allowing users to send virtual red packets to friends and groups.

The gamified element proved brilliant. WeChat users can send batches of Red Envelopes to friend groups. If there are more group members than envelopes, the first to arrive gets the goodies, encouraging users to stay online throughout the New Year. Red Envelopes became an instant success. Its 2015 Spring Festival debut generated 1 billion WeChat money transfers and was an important step in building trust in WeChat Payment.

This strategy demonstrated cultural intelligence and psychological insight. By connecting payments to joyful social rituals rather than mere transactions, WeChat made digital payments feel natural and fun rather than technical or risky.

The Mini Programme Revolution

Perhaps WeChat's most significant innovation was the introduction of Mini Programmes in 2017. WeChat Mini Programmes are lightweight, app-like services embedded within WeChat, eliminating the need for downloads. Users could access services ranging from food delivery to ride-hailing to e-commerce without leaving WeChat or installing separate apps.

In 2023, Mini Programmes handled 2.7 trillion RMB in transactions, with over 3.5 million active programs. This ecosystem transformed WeChat from an app into a platform.

The developer-friendly approach proved crucial. Unlike Western counterparts, which often impose high fees of around 30% and employ app ranking systems, WeChat adopted a more developer-friendly model, allowing even the smallest of developers to compete on an equal footing with large corporations. This level playing field encouraged innovation and rapid ecosystem growth.

Mini Programmes solved a genuine problem for users and developers alike. Apps were becoming bloated, consuming storage and data. Mini Programmes offered instant access to services without the friction of downloads, updates, or storage concerns. For developers, they provided access to WeChat's massive user base without the costs and competition of traditional app stores.

The Grand Design Approach

Recent research into WeChat's development revealed an unusual aspect of its innovation process. Rather than following design thinking methodologies popular in Silicon Valley—iterating based on user feedback and data—WeChat's success stemmed from what researchers call "grand design": a new product or service emerges fully formed in the innovator's mind's eye before it is developed and commercialised.

Zhang possessed a clear, comprehensive vision of what WeChat should become. While user feedback informed refinements, the fundamental architecture and philosophy came from Zhang's holistic conception of how digital life should work. This approach proved particularly effective in the early formative stages of the Chinese mobile market, when user behaviours and expectations were still malleable.

Competing on Values, Not Just Features

Zhang articulated ten principles guiding WeChat's development, ranging from innovation and usefulness to honesty and environmental consciousness. The tenth principle was that products should not be overly designed, meaning "less is more". This restraint distinguished WeChat from competitors who constantly added features to chase engagement metrics.

WeChat refused to change its interface to red and yellow during the Chinese New Year, unlike many Chinese apps. When questioned about this decision, Zhang's response revealed his thinking: such changes prioritise momentary relevance over timeless design principles. WeChat aimed to be a tool that endured, not one that chased trends.

This philosophical consistency created trust and loyalty. Users knew what to expect from WeChat. It wouldn't suddenly become cluttered with ads, compromise their privacy, or sacrifice user experience for short-term revenue.

Why Western Super Apps Struggle

Despite WeChat's success, replicating the super app model in Western markets has proven challenging. Several factors explain this difficulty.

Cultural differences play a significant role. Western consumers are habituated to using different apps for distinct services, and shifting this entrenched behaviour would require a radical transformation in consumer digital habits. In China, WeChat established dominance during the rapid phase of smartphone adoption, shaping expectations from the outset. In the West, established single-purpose apps already own specific use cases.

Regulatory environments differ significantly. Western regulators have grown increasingly concerned about tech companies' power and are more critical of companies developing super apps. The business models and data practices that enabled WeChat's growth are now under stricter scrutiny in Europe and North America.

Technical considerations matter too. Single-purpose apps often perform better. They're faster, more responsive, and easier to navigate than comprehensive platforms. Western users value optimisation and may resist apps that try to do everything.

Perhaps most importantly, the competitive landscape differs. In China, Tencent faced limited competition in messaging when WeChat launched, allowing it to expand before strong alternatives emerged. In Western markets, dominant players like Facebook, Google, and Apple fiercely defend their turf, making it difficult for any single app to achieve the dominance of WeChat.

The Super App Platform Strategy

WeChat's success ultimately rests on its platform strategy. Rather than building every feature internally, WeChat created infrastructure allowing third parties to innovate within its ecosystem. Official Accounts let businesses communicate with customers. Mini Programmes enabled developers to create services. WeChat Pay facilitated transactions. The platform provided tools; third parties provided services.

This approach created network effects. More users attracted more developers, which created more services, which attracted more users. The ecosystem became self-reinforcing, making WeChat increasingly indispensable to daily life in China.

The platform model also distributes innovation. Instead of WeChat's team having to imagine every possible use case, thousands of developers experimented with different services and business models—the most successful scaled rapidly. The unsuccessful quietly disappeared. This decentralised innovation proved far more powerful than any centralised strategy could achieve.

Lessons for App-Based Entrepreneurs

WeChat's journey offers several crucial insights for entrepreneurs building app-based ventures.

Start with a clear philosophy, not just features. Zhang's user-first philosophy guided countless decisions over many years. Having core principles helps navigate the infinite trade-offs inherent in product development. Without clear values, companies drift toward whatever maximises short-term metrics, often at the expense of long-term success.

Solve real problems elegantly. Voice messaging addressed typing difficulties. Red Packets made digital payments social and fun. Mini Programmess eliminated download friction. Each innovation responded to genuine user needs rather than copying competitors or chasing trends.

Resist revenue optimisation at the expense of users. The temptation to maximise advertising revenue or add premium tiers is constant. WeChat's restraint built trust that translated into sustained usage and platform loyalty worth far more than short-term revenue gains.

Build platforms, not just products. The most successful apps create ecosystems where others can build value. This multiplies your impact and creates defensive moats through network effects.

Cultural context matters. WeChat's success came partly from a deep understanding of Chinese culture and behaviour. Red Packets worked because they connected to existing traditions. Voice messaging succeeded because it solved Chinese-specific challenges. Global products must balance universal utility with local relevance.

Speed and decisiveness create advantages. The 70-day initial development created first-mover advantage. Rapid iteration on voice messaging captured user attention before competitors responded. In fast-moving markets, speed of execution often matters more than perfection.

Focus on organic growth over forced promotion. Zhang refused to heavily promote new features, believing that if users wouldn't share naturally, promotion was meaningless. This patience and faith in product quality over marketing proved prescient.

Grand vision combined with pragmatic execution. Zhang possessed a comprehensive vision of what WeChat should become, but implemented it incrementally, learning and adjusting as it went, while maintaining a strategic direction.

Conclusion

WeChat became the world's largest standalone mobile app in 2018, but its significance extends far beyond size. WeChat pioneered a new category—the super app—and demonstrated that mobile applications could become comprehensive platforms rather than single-purpose tools. It proved that user-focused philosophy could coexist with commercial success, that restraint in monetisation could generate greater long-term value than aggressive optimisation, and that cultural understanding could transform good products into indispensable services.

For entrepreneurs building app-based ventures, WeChat offers both inspiration and caution. Inspiration because it shows what's possible when vision, execution, and user focus align. Caution because WeChat's success came from unique circumstances—timing, market conditions, cultural context, and regulatory environment—that may not transfer to other contexts.

The super app model may not replicate globally. Still, WeChat’s underlying principles remain universally relevant: solve real problems, respect your users, build platforms that enable others, and maintain philosophical consistency even under pressure to compromise. These lessons transcend specific business models or market conditions.

App-Based Entrepreneurship: Building Businesses in Your Pocket

App-Based Entrepreneurship: Building Businesses in Your Pocket

Mobile applications have fundamentally changed entrepreneurship. What once required significant capital, infrastructure, and technical teams can now be built by small teams or even solo founders with relatively modest resources. The smartphone in your pocket represents a direct connection to billions of potential customers, a powerful computing platform, and access to services and APIs that would have cost millions to build a decade ago.

McDonald's: The Blueprint for Franchise Entrepreneurship

McDonald's: The Blueprint for Franchise Entrepreneurship

In 1954, Ray Kroc visited the McDonald brothers in San Bernardino to see why they were making so many milkshakes. The 52-year-old milkshake mixer salesman had spent decades in various sales jobs, never quite finding his breakthrough. What he witnessed that day would change his life and revolutionise the restaurant industry. A streamlined hamburger stand serving customers with unprecedented speed and efficiency.

Grameen Bank: Proving the Poor Are Creditworthy

Grameen Bank: Proving the Poor Are Creditworthy

In 1976, while walking through the village of Jobra in Bangladesh, economics professor Muhammad Yunus encountered a woman named Sophia Begum weaving bamboo stools. Despite her skill and hard work, she earned barely two cents per day. The reason was simple yet devastating: she lacked the twenty cents needed to buy bamboo from the market. Instead, she borrowed from local moneylenders who charged predatory interest rates, so that her entire profit went toward servicing debt. She was trapped in a cycle of poverty, not because she lacked ability or work ethic, but because she lacked access to affordable credit.

Social Entrepreneurship: Building Businesses That Do Good

Social Entrepreneurship: Building Businesses That Do Good

For decades, business and social impact occupied separate spheres. Businesses existed to maximise profit. Charities and nonprofits addressed social problems. The assumption was that these objectives were fundamentally incompatible. Pursuing profit meant sacrificing social good, while prioritising social impact required abandoning commercial viability.

Scaling Challenges: When Growth Creates New Problems

Scaling Challenges: When Growth Creates New Problems

Success in entrepreneurship often creates an unexpected problem: growth itself becomes the challenge. What worked brilliantly at 5 employees breaks catastrophically at 50. Processes that seemed unnecessary become essential. Many entrepreneurs discover that scaling a business requires fundamentally different skills from starting one.

Understanding Startup Incubators: Nurturing Ideas from Conception to Viability

Understanding Startup Incubators: Nurturing Ideas from Conception to Viability

Having discussed Accelerators in a previous post, here’s a detailed exploration of Incubators and how they support entrepreneurs.

When entrepreneurs first conceive of a business idea, they often face a daunting challenge: how to transform a concept into a functioning company. While accelerators help existing startups grow faster, incubators serve a fundamentally different purpose. They help nascent ideas develop into viable businesses. Think of incubators as the greenhouse where seeds are carefully nurtured, while accelerators are the Baby Bio applied to young plants that need to scale quickly.

Financial Management for Early-Stage Ventures: Mastering the Numbers

Financial Management for Early-Stage Ventures: Mastering the Numbers

Many entrepreneurs excel at product development, sales, or operations, but struggle with financial management. This is dangerous. Poor financial management kills more startups than bad products do. Running out of money, failing to understand unit economics, or making decisions based on gut feel rather than data can destroy an otherwise promising venture.

Fundraising Strategies: A Practical Guide to Financing Your Venture

Fundraising Strategies: A Practical Guide to Financing Your Venture

Raising capital is one of the most misunderstood aspects of entrepreneurship. Popular media focuses on massive venture capital rounds and dramatic pitch competitions. It creates the impression that external funding is both necessary and universally available. The reality is far more nuanced. Most businesses never raise institutional capital, and many that do raise the wrong amount at the wrong time. Some of the most successful companies were built with minimal external funding.

Learning From Failure: The Tools That Make It More Than a Slogan

Learning From Failure: The Tools That Make It More Than a Slogan

"Fail fast, learn faster." "Celebrate failure." "If you're not failing, you're not innovating." The entrepreneurial world is full of calls to embrace failure as a learning tool. This idea is well-meaning and, in theory, correct. Real innovation carries uncertainty, meaning many attempts won’t succeed. Learning from these failures drives progress. In my post on Pixar Animations, I noted that embracing failure is an important element of its entrepreneurial culture.

Building an Entrepreneurial Culture: Why It Matters and How to Do It

Building an Entrepreneurial Culture: Why It Matters and How to Do It

Culture often feels like a soft, intangible concept. Something nice to have but not essential to business success. This perception is wrong. Culture fundamentally determines how your organisation operates, what it can achieve and whether it attracts and retains talented people. For entrepreneurial ventures, culture matters even more. It shapes whether your organisation can maintain the innovation and drive that created initial success.

Building Your Founding Team: Getting the Foundation Right

Building Your Founding Team: Getting the Foundation Right

The decision to start a company alone or with co-founders is one of the most important choices you'll make. Get it right, and you have partners who complement your skills, share the burden, and multiply your capabilities. Get it wrong, and you face conflict, inefficiency, and potentially the death of your venture.

Here's how to think about building and managing a founding team that sets you up for success.

When Users Tell You What They Want: The YouTube Pivot Story

When Users Tell You What They Want: The YouTube Pivot Story

On April 23, 2005, Jawed Karim uploaded a 19-second video of himself standing in front of the elephant enclosure at the San Diego Zoo. "All right, so here we are in front of the elephants," he says awkwardly. "The cool thing about these guys is that they have really, really, really long trunks. And that's cool. And that's pretty much all there is to say."